monks and nuns should always be horny
Posted by Clarity on 01 Apr 2006 at 08:03 am | Tagged as: Shambhala
I have come across a wonderful interview with Ani Pema Chodron, where she talks about her experiences with the Vidyadhara Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche. Some are really funny, like this one:
He told me that one of my main jobs would be to sort out people’s motivation. He said a lot of people are going to want to become monks and nuns because they can’t get it up—their romantic thing didn’t work out and they decide to take vows. He said that’s not good motivation, monastic life shouldn’t be an escape. That’s when he made the famous comment which I’ve repeated many times: “The monks and nuns should always be horny.” He said, “We want real energetic juicy monks and nuns but they should keep their vows impeccably.” He said that we needed Shambhalian monks and nuns. I didn’t think to ask him exactly what he meant. But I took it to mean: looking good and comporting ourselves well.
and this is the one she tells a lot:
PC: One thing I always remember….He would stop every so often when I was in a crowd of people-you know once a year, twice a year, but out of the blue, unexpectedly—and say, “Don’t be too religious.”
WF: Always the same message?
PC: Always the same message. “Don’t be too religious.” And of course I’d get paranoid, “I’m being too religious?” But it was just basically a message about how to proceed. Don’t be too religious. So I certainly always remember that.
As I can be pretty strict with myself and take myself way too seriously, this has always been an excellent advice.
I miss the Abbey, even though living there was the hardest thing I ever did.
Perhaps I’ll be able to visit it this summer, we’ll see how things go.
But anyway, take your time and read the whole interview, it is truly excellent.
Good advice… I have a big problem with this - being too “into” religion. It is a constant struggle for me to differentiate between actual practice and the desire to practice “correctly”. I think of things I ought to be doing, or ways I ought to be doing things, and it is a struggle to just note those thoughts as thoughts and not try to emulate something I’m not.
It’s as difficult and complex as the preceeding paragraph.
Amen brother! (coming from a brother)
Clarity, I’ve been trying to respond to your e-mail during my rare free time, only to take too much time typing my letters, and ending up timed out of Yahoo. I think I’ll write my letter in Word and copy it over when I have the time.
I like the one about religion, a meditation instructor of mine always use to tell me
“Don’t get so damn spiritual that you are no earthly goo!” I still don’t have to worry too much about that one !
Ups that should have said good not goo!