ngondro practice
Posted by Clarity on 26 Nov 2005 at 10:04 pm | Tagged as: Shambhala
Finally again got to do my ngondro, it is always so hard to start again after not doing it for a while. I find that even though I’m looking forward to it, resistance still takes over.
Today I think I even managed to completely fall asleep during one part, sitting on my cushion. Amazing. ![]()
Also, with all the recent changes in our post-seminary curriculum that the Sakyong has been making, and my long stuckness in Karma Kagyu ngondro, I have finally made the decision to follow the path as it seems to be laid out now, which means Primordian Rigden ngondro as daily practice and schedule in a month of group practice before the Rigden Abisheka next year.
I’ve been going back and forth between this, as I do feel a connection with the Kagyu ngondro as well, and also feeling bad about not finishing something that I started, which is quite a pattern in my life anyway.
However, there really is no virtue in being stuck for so long.
Also, with the new layout Kagyu ngondro is done after Werma sadhana, and it is changed so that it is done by time, instead of by counting as well, which at least for me, is a great relief. At the rate I was going now, I’d finish this ngondro in 10 years or so.
And as it was pointed out, ngondro means preliminary practice, preparation for sadhana, not something you do for so long.
It also helps that I totally love the liturgy of Primordial Rigden, it really speaks directly to me, and is extremely beautiful.
Did I mention that apparently Sakyong would like all of us to do 9 ngondros in our life?
3 times each (shambhala,kagyu,nyingma).
I reconnected with ny own ngöndro (nyingma, longchen nyingtik) this weekend. Amazing how much I love it, adore it, feel as if it’s all I want for my life when I do it, and how the “I oughttas”, heaviness and unwillingness take over when I don’t…..
How did the Shambhala talk go?
- G
Hi Greg,
great to hear! And yes, when I do it, it feels similar, it’s the times when I don’t (which far outnumber the other ones) that are problematic.
It gives a good ground for moving further and I got some really helpful feedback on what I can improve. Greg, do you have a weblog?
And the Shambhala talk went ok, I feel I’ve finally connected with this material in a way that allows me to talk about it. My critical mind says, that it wasn’t that great, as usual, but it really doesn’t matter.
Hello again,
I just attended a weekend commentary on the Bodhisattvacharyavatara and then 2 weekends of commentary on “Words of My Perfect Teacher” by my own root guru! To say that my practice has been revitalized is an understatement! I am SO happy. I’m back in the rhythm of daily practice and making some progress on accumulations as well as (hopefully) the two obscurations!
When I have this momentum, it just seems to carry almost on its own. Sure, Maras come up, but there’s a quiet consistency that helps so very much.
All the best,
- Greg
Hi Clarity,Greg,
Firstly,thanks for sharing your experiances with the ngondro practice.I have just started my ngondro and I am finding it exreamly hard to get into.Some weeks I practice every day doing at least 50 prostrations,then other weeks i do none at all :>( My body aches and I miss sitting meditation.Any sugestions would be of great help to me.
Metta and mantras Jess xx
Hi Jess,
I know how you feel! It is extremely hard! One thing I found really helped is group practice - that always reinspired me and gave me the strength to continue on my own.
The other thing I found helpful was doing a ngondro retreat - even though I was first scared even at the thought of it, it was actually great. I did 10 days and I just took it easily. I started slowly and then built up to around 800/day, and I didn’t push it further than that. Interestingly, all the problems I had with ngondro as my daily practice didn’t really come up during the retreat. Seemed to have something to do not having so much postmeditation time, as for me it was actually hardest after practicing, not during!
Other than that, I really don’t know. Surrender, I guess?
Thanks Clarity,
I should think of going into retreat I think.Gosh 800 a day….I only manage 50 and the most I have done in one day is 120 :>(
Mingyu Rinpoche has advised me to do just 10,000 prostratons too so I should be grateful as the full ngondro’s 100,000.
I’M A BABY!!!!!!!!!!! I ACHE,MY KNEES HURT,MY BACK ACHES….GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
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Get on with it I hear them say lol